Definition and Actualization of Chaos

Hello All,

I am curious to hear how Chaos relates to everyones lives. As Chaos Magician, we have the freedom to create our own explanations of magick, but how does Chaos interact in all of you lives as this freedom becomes expressed?

I have never honestly deified this force, but I have accepted it as the motivator of experience and action, that which we sense behind all occurance yet we can not glimps it. Chaos has always acted as the growing totality of possiblity within my paradigm and other paradigms which I frequent. I find it impossible to experience this force totally, but I do feel that every time I receive a result, I have somehow glimpsed the existance of the force within repressented by the Kia. Something about it made sense to me at a very young age as I started practicing Chaos magic at the age of fifteen. My eclectic tendencies seemed to fit well with the contents of Liber Null as if I had somehow retroactively implanted the seeds of a budding chaos magician within.

My understanding of the nature of Kia/Chaos has made metamorphosis easier, for all tendencies merely repressent a mask which the Kia envelopes itself in i.e. a lie. I guess that after we beggin to tend the garden which is our habits, we become the father of lies in a sense.

Anomaly

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Those videos are pretty sweet. I definitly like the Tim Leary video. I read Virus of the Mind a few years back, I really liked it.

Anomaly

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Hi Flexi,

I see where you are coming from. The argument which states that the universe is either deterministic or undeterministic is futal. A system based on dual principle will reflect both. I tend to swing toward a Morphic field/probablistic indeterminate structure of reality, but predestined determinism does creep in at points. The idea of predestination sometimes proves useful when attempting to invoke belief of a paradigm. This becomes the most useful when attempting to integrate ones self into a paradgim such as the druidic. The Jungian concept of Archetypal personality types and past life creation also lends to the intergration of belief structures.

I like the idea of solipsism from the stand point that we can not prove that anything other than ourselves exists but I have received better results from the personal multi mind where considering metamorphosis. Work with Uncle Ramseys little book of Demons has proved useful, I dig his whole name then befriend technique as opposed to the master/slave relationship of goetic evocation and prefer working from a spiritist stand point rather then a material or psychological one when attempting things like this.

Your post reminds me of Phillip K. Dick. In his book the Philosophy of Science Fiction, there was an essay about how he believed he lived multiple incarnations at once. He would experience past/current life memories/realizations after viewing such symbols as the jesus fish/double helix thing people put on their cars. truly a mad man bordering on hysteria, but i bet his life was a lot more interesting than most peoples.

I like Carroll's summary of time as relative movement. This makes more sense then objectifying it as a phenomenon, rather we should view it as the perception of movement i.e. change within reality. We have no past to return to and no future to plan, tomorrow is just another yesterday. Every moment repressents a new self for me to alter further, lol.

I have a metamorphosis project going down right now, I plan to disrupt the ego to the point of fluidity by invoking my opposite. I just had an excellent thought for it centering around the multidimensional platform I have been working on. possibly ritual two of the series... I just have to figure out how to incorporate it into Liber LLL which is a mighty task in itself.

Thanks,
~Anomaly~

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from my point of view chaos is one pole in opposition to the order as the other pole. in between there is life.
I'm a science/tech guy and not formerly into magick. Just like this Yin-Yang thingy we're living in a bubble bath that let arose philosophy right up to mathematics - the ivory tower of order - which then again embodies a field called chaos theory. As for me chaos is always in play with order and you cannot not polarizingly look at it.
I'm fascinated by formulas that abstract from time - differential equations. By abstracting from time i mean it's all now: the past and the future. If this time line has a beginning or an end it must be boring as hell, except for you are fascinated by the abstraction itself. This also means that that part of you, which is looking down on you at this very moment, also has always existed. You can imagine having these thoughts way back some hundred years and i promise you they will also come in the distant future.
to come to full circles, the definition of chaos in this mathematical sense is unpredictability. the only way to get to know the outcome of a chaotic system after a given time, is to let it run the given time. but i personally also think of white noise as the thin veneer where your perceptions find their material representation on. I'm really anything else but a material type 8-)

chaos magick is my way to cope with my BPD, or you can say i'm a schizotypal by choice. I won't give up my solipsism.

here's one illuminating video playlist:

George Smoot: The design of the universe [19:00]
Molecular Visualizations of DNA [7:47]
Feynman about flowers [1:26]
Beauty of Nature - Viruses [2:32]
Dawkins' "Viruses of the Mind" [4:02]
Timothy Leary - How to Operate Your Brain [28:57]