LOL, that could be fun, I love the site and especially the cool new design.

Anomaly

Keep goin like this and you might just be drafted as a mod or something someday soon LOL! :lol:

Hello FiveSight,

Very cool stuff ya got going on there. I enjoy learning and hearing of other peoples practices. I have had a weekend full of Psychic vampirism and energy work, Dance/Exhaustion gnosis, Metamorphosis/shapeshifting as well as charging some rituals with the free gnosis generated by the Detroit Electronic Music Festival, so I am a tid bit drained at the moment. I spent three days visualizing and the effects are starting to show. Feed, Yawn, Sleep. I expect that after another good nights sleep I will be right as rain and ready to take the Reigns as the King of Posts around these parts. Thats right baby, Kind/Queen of the mountain time. Solstice is the closest I would assume, she is who I beat out to get to the top.

Thanks,
Anomaly

P.S. You dont count Andrieh, It is your web site, of course you are going to have the most posts. Hahahahhahhahahhahhahah ha

Occasionally I do something like this when doing 'readings', in which it becomes a very fast process. If I am stuck for information or can't get their "signature", I will look the seeker in the eyes, project clear energy through my right eye into their left, receive from their left through my right, and let the flow work something like a teleprompter that I speed-read. I shut the connection down by glancing away to talk and open it up again (if necessary) by looking into their eyes again. If I'm just using their palm, I will feed the connection through them that way - very open. This is kind of like vampirism, but without any intent other than to acquire information that the seeker does not have access to. I believe that any energy loss on the part of the seeker is balanced by the energy I use to "prime the pump", or "jumpstart" the process.

Sometimes during the session, I will extend the loop into their heart chakra and back up through the eye to me. BTW, when I am finished with any divination, I do a banishing, silently sometimes, to clear any excess energy, then do a sort of grounding, or store the energy in a tool until I have time to stand on the earth and clean the energy. This is easy for me to do because most of my work is done by phone from home - I can just go out into the yard.

Of course, in remote viewing, this kind of stuff only interferes with the session. But RV is a different process, and used for acquiring different types of information.

R

It's all good, Anomaly :) Yeah- the energy stuff can be odd in how it affects interactions between people...

The thing is- even with experienced magicians- this sort of exercise *can* potentially cause problems... Just because one *has* the skills doesn't necessarily mean that one chooses to *use* the skills... Consider this situation- two magicians decide to undertake this experiment- both knowledgeable, both experienced. They know each other sort of well- have worked together magically before, and- they are very attracted to each other physically. (Or- they're somewhat attracted physically- or even just not repulsed by each other, and are in a position where they really want "someone" in their life in a romantic/sexual position) They do this experiment- but because they are attracted to each other, they allow themselves to be deceived by what they *want* and either fail to banish the connection or feed into the connection because they want that connection. (Alot harder to banish something you don't really want to get rid of, isn't it? ;) ) And- even if the condition is banished properly afterward- that connection is still "there" to an extent, because the mind remembers it. You can banish the active connection- but the residual resonance is still there because you don't just "forget". This can lead to obsession because the person may continue to focus on it and think about it- or at least (in the case that they recognize the problem) to the necessity of repeated banishings if the connection was a particularly strong/pleassant one. Experienced magicians or no- at least, if there is any possibility of attraction on a romantic/sexual level between them- it is a concern. The trust issue is a concern as well- but I think the romantic/sexual connection would tend to cause alot of problems if there were any chance at all of that entering into the mix. ... MHO of course :)

Anywho- definately a solid technique! :)

Wow, Thanks everyone.

You two have provided excellent tips. I wrote the message kind of hastely, in retrospect, I would not have wrote it "any time you meet a new magician." I am definitly getting your book Andrieh, I am super excited about the read. Good point on the trust issue Andrieh, I have never in fact performed this with someone who I had not previously worked with magically or at least known for a considerable amount of time. I am what you would call a novice at this type of work, I have actually ignored the energy model due to Pete Carrolls chapter on Auric magic, but I have always had a natural knack for energy work. posting a warning of some sort seemed like a good idea, especially if people who might read it are not aware of what results are possible with this type of exercise, I mean, I was unaware of some of the stuff you two posted. So far, I have only seen you two responding to my posts, so I dont think there is much to worry about what with the Reiki experience you two have, I was more so worried about people who wondered onto the site in an attempt to learn. Thank you for pointing out some of the dangers, as I said before, this exercise came about in my mind because of a natural knack for this sort of thing. I am happy that I have met some experienced folks who can point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Anomaly

Two things, first
you can use NLP to establish Rapport, and then the energy connection is alot easier to work with.
Once you have rapport, you have an open link that you can use to manipulate or influence through energy work particularly if you can stay objective enough to feel soemthing and still understand what is going on. I mostly disagree with the notion to use this as the first step to build rapport, in practice you have to be in a situation that gives you the "expert" status before people will willingly do this. AKA you are in a class and via that class effect, you are given a Rapport authoritty card *( in NLP terms).

In street situations, its much more effective, to get Rapport, through matching, tonality, and language patterns, and then use more subtle methods of energy tweaking to do this. By the time someone will do the ball exercise with you, they probably will trust you.

Not surprisingly, this appears in Hands on Chaos Magic, in a lot of forms while also working on strengthening the aura ( so if people want alot more information on this, check out the book)., banishing etc. Actually we go through tons and tons of exercises about this very thing. and there is a bunch ( as in 40 pages or more) with different variations on this.

To me this is a first step exercise for Sex Magical operations on the point of Venus ( planetary not the goddess) and in a runic sense Gebo/Wunjo

Yep be careful about energy... Since the subconsious mind interpretes as a connection, which "we" know as love or intimacy. In some cases this is ok, since the energies are just jiving and it might happen anyway.... and definitely make sure to banish.

I do not recommend your take on using this to create rapport, I wouldn't do this with someone I didn't know. This connection, as I explain in Hands on Chaos Magic, can affect people in negative ways. Once there is a connection like this, certainly any issues that trouble set magicain can flow through it. Thats a side correlate of empathy actually. That said, I wouldnt recommend doing something like this with magicians you meet until you have a pretty good vibe and understanding of them. AKA get to know them first. Have some coffee with them, a couple times.

This exercise in practice, when followed is a method of bypassing peoples psychic shielding or can be used in that fashion ( if you read between the lines in Hands On Chaos Magic), and your right Anaomy, that it can be used for cross body work, but thats at a much higher level of practice.

Well- uh- this sounds a little too intimate to me to be using 'anytime a new magician is met'- but... it's definately a good technique for creating or strengthening a connection. Some of the risks involved could be fostering an emotionally intimate connection that isn't necessarily desireable... And- such a connection would have a good chance at heading into something sexual- (if there is any sort of physical attraction- or if the empathic connection fosters that physical attraction) so aside from taking precautions to make sure what is/isn't "yours" before engaging- I'd also take inventory as to where one might want such a connection to go- and what the comfort level is between participants as far as emotional/sexual engagement. MHO.

A few note I would like to relate

Be sure to perform a banishing after this working, the empathetic effects of the ritual can be astounding. A good grip of your personality and ideals should be taken inventory of before performing so that unwanted empathetic impressions which pass from person to person are not accepted as your own. Although this ritual is extremely simple, the results of it are extraordinary. Empathetic magic is a powerful device and should be treated with respect. Idealy, each persn should use a state of no mind when performing this ritual. Know thy self.